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Nutrition | April 30, 2015
Every now and then I’ll post a recipe or a dietary suggestion only to be criticized as ignorant or foolish by someone for promoting a specific type of food or dietary approach. I understand that some of these people may have good intentions, but their criticisms aren’t always very rational.
Diets can really be the equivalent of religious beliefs sometimes. People often advocate and defend their diets with as much screaming and shouting as a religious fanatic. And, of course, everyone thinks they are right. If you happen to dare suggest something that may not be allowed in their current diet or goes against their dietary perspective they sometimes get a bit crazy and break out their pitchforks. Honestly, I’m amazed at how harsh and personal people can get!
There are so many different diets out there, that it can be dizzying. Add to that the various claims and studies that supposedly back up any given diet and it can be enough to literally drive someone crazy. For example, when people argue that such and such diet is ‘most natural’ or what ‘cavemen and women ate’ I have to laugh a little. If we’re really going for genetic ancestry to support our dietary claims why stop at Neanderthal? How about the Chimpanzee Diet or, better yet, The Bigfoot Diet? 🙂
While I think it’s important to always link up studies and research as much as possible, I also try to be cautious about making outrageous claims. I try to share things that have worked for me personally and what I’ve learned through the many years of nutrition education and practice. Ultimately, it comes down to what works for you and what makes you feel the best from the inside out. If a specific diet works for you and you’re seeing results, stick to it! Some people feel better after avoiding gluten, some people avoid coffee because they don’t like the jittery feeling, and of course there are a lot of different food allergies that affect people’s diet too. If you feel like experimenting with your nutrition by trying something different with a recipe or plan then I recommend you go for it and see how it makes you feel. Of course all of your personal nutrition practices should match up with your physical activity level. You can’t just eat like a caveman and expect to get results if you’re not hunting and gathering like the cavemen did.
What just about all of us can agree on is that moderation is essential for any diet to be successful and having a variety of different foods is most beneficial. We can also agree that the less processed the food the better and that refined sugars are usually more harm than good. We may not always agree on the particulars of what exactly to eat, when to eat, or how much calories to eat but we can agree on some basic principles that are applicable whether or not we are following a vegan diet, paleo diet, Atkins diet, raw diet, etc.
What are your thoughts on criticizing other people for their dietary choices? Can’t we all just get along! 🙂
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I really do not like when people criticize or even shame others based on their diet. Some friendly suggestions (especially when the person is asking for an advice) is ok but I’ve seen so many people on social media getting furious just because someone eats differently. I believe there is never only one right way. There is definitely a right way for each of us but it’s not the same for everyone. So until you are feeling good on your diet it is all that matters.
Lot of people on the internet should learn to be nicer because I see tons of shaming and hating every single day. They can be so mean and vicious it’s beyond this word. I always look at these comments and think “but it is not your bloody problem! it is not your body”.
I think you are doing a great job and Im glad you are so kind and open to other ways of eating etc. That’s why you will always be my favorite fitness personality!
Zdravím z Prahy! 🙂
Katie
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Live and Let Live! You are absolutely right…people just get a little (a lot) crazy about these things. Nobody has to follow anyone’s advice, nobody has to agree with everything they read. If we all did everything the same way this would be a very boring life. People need to learn to relax a little :o)
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I think, from the onset, especially if one is a promoter or educator of health (be that diet, fitness, or just overall lifestyle), that he or she should first and foremost think solely of their client(s), readers, or customers. There is no denying that we are all different. From the color of our skin to the foods we LIKE to eat. We just are, as products of nature, diverse, beautiful beings. And I don’t believe there is a ‘true diet’ for everyone. There are many well spoken vegan doctors and extraordinary athletes out there speaking up, defending their diets, and proving that, for them, at least, it can be done in a healthy manner. Point taken. But then on the opposite side of the spectrum, there are also many paleo-based athletes and doctors who have accomplished similar feats in their health. Both nag and argue with one another for eons. But I believe the proof is in how happy those people feel, and whether or not they demonstrate true health. As someone who is both passionate about spreading healthy information and aspiring to become certified in some profession to continue said spread (I am already a certified yoga instructor, and want to study health coaching), I understand how overwhelming it can be to decide what is ‘best’ and the short answer is there is not. No matter how many studies can be done, the person who has the final word in the matter is YOU. Does it resonate with your heart to the point that you can happily sustain it? Do you experience any relief in symptoms, if any, or sudden onset of ones? (As in, buying copious amounts of ‘pills for ills’, as one health professional calls it. If a diet demands extreme, extensive supplementation, then how healthy is it really? That’s a whole other debate, but I would draw the line at having to take up to 7 different pills a day.) If you are seeing results and are feeling good about yourself, then you know what it is you are doing is healthy. If you are not getting sick so often, your quality of life is soaring, then you are on the right track. I love that there are different ‘diets’ out there, at least, so that it indicates there are many ways to improve your health, that maybe you are just too darn special to fit into a cookie-cutter, ‘average’ shoehole. Don’t follow average guidelines or quick fixes, because those will lead you to average, quick results, only to bring you right back up to the where you started.
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I couldn’t agree more. I often read comments to your recipes and can’t believe how judgmental and critical they are, especially as you generally share your food habits as a point of interest – rather than insisting this is how we should all eat. Unlike the replies, which seem to aim to contradict everything you say and imply they know everything!
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québec, canada
Yeah, I remember that guy claiming that us, meat eaters, were as bad as child molestors, serial killers or rapists. That was just a couple of days ago. I was so shocked by his words. Some people are so extreme in their beliefs; they can’t get anyone to listen to their arguments when they are so aggressive but they don’t understand that. You’re right, people can get so harsch and personal, especially on the internet.
In french, we say “Vivre et laisser vivre”. I can’t find a similar expression in English.
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ellijay, ga, united states
Wow…that’s…an extreme claim! 😮 I can understand wanting to treat animals kindly, but just because people eat meat doesn’t mean they’re being cruel about it (plenty of animals eat meat…I guess that would mean they’re cruel?) We have farms in our area that treat their animals very humanely, and let visitors see for themselves. I understand and respect others that don’t want to eat that way, but wow, that’s uncalled for. I agree — it’s shocking to see people so vicious toward others who don’t share their habits!
It blows me away how mean so many people can be about ANYthing…particularly on the Internet. 🙁 I wish more people could pause, step back, and consider that maybe the person they’re about to attack isn’t really trying to be hurtful.
(We say “Live and let live” here…sounds like it’s the same expression! 🙂 )
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ellijay, ga, united states
(oops, I wish I could edit my post…that “shocked” face at the top of my post looks like a very happy expression! LOL! That’s supposed to be “shock”…not “joy”! Ha!)
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MARILYN AUDRY, I am the guy you are referring to… and you are somewhat misquoting me! I said that meat eaters, child molesters, rapist, and serial killer all have similar mentalities! And what I mean by that is that, meat eaters say eating animal flesh is just a personal choice, and my response is that once a “choice” harms someone that does not have a say in that so called choice it no longer is a personal choice, at that point it turns into an imposition of power. Eating meat is NOT a personal choice it is simply an imposition of power over an animal that cannot defend itself against your determination to kill them and eat their flesh, and claim it was just a personal choice. A personal choice is like picking out a sweater, no one is harmed! Or making the choice to go to a movie instead of going to the mall… again that is a personal choice. So people knowing that there is no unique nutrient in animal flesh or secretions that can not be found on a plant based diet, and they still choose to killing the animal for nothing more than a learned taste. So the meat eater is not thinking or giving any consideration to its victims they believe that their wants or desires are the only thing that matters and the poor animals desire to live does not even enter the equation. That mentality is NO different than a rapist, serial killer, or child molester… they all believe the ONLY thing that matters is their personal wants and desires and their victims wants or desires do not matter in the slightest! So I stand by my comment as it is accurate and logical!
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David, just stop. You are a person who belongs to a very very small niche mindset. You are not making anyone feel bad, you are not changing anyone’s mind, you are not making any real sense, and you sure aren’t “opening eyes”. Humans eat meat and organs. Always have always will. It is densely packed with nutrients we need, we have a biological urge to eat it. It is a food where a lot goes a long way and gives you more bang for your buck, as it were, than trying to select different plants from different areas to fill the void. You are free to eat how you like, so is everyone else. You have a problem with fundamental part of humanity and if this irks you so much then that’s your cross to carry. Good luck to you kid.
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if you have biological need to eat meat please feel free to catch a cow and eat it raw, using just your nails and teeth. just like carnivorous do. i absolutely get killing when you have to survive. but slaughter houses is absolute evil. you should visit one perhaps. what happens there is a murder in a cruelest way possible. wanna eat meat? eat organic, local at least.
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You sure are something else.
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Accurate and logical would be to consider how ALL your choices maybe harm another. Why stop at sweater? Choosing a sweater from an abusive sweat shop in another country that uses environmentally detrimental chemicals or a sweater knitted from grandma with local wool? Does your tofu wrapped in plastic harm the living beings with the monocropping it takes to produce the sit and the plastic packaging to wrap it? Do you apply your logic to all the choices you make? Are the tomatoes in your vegan salad harvested from an abused migrant worker? Is the wheat in your vegan muffin grown when GMO seeds and heavily sprayed with pesticides which in turn harm the ecosystem (defenseless creatures! Gasp!)? As a omnivore (like other species who eat meat) it’s all part of the circle of life. Maybe you should take your microscope of scrutiny to other diets (like veganism) to see the flaws you admittedly point out in others. Reflect on how you can do better for yourself. The way you are advocating to others only repels them from your logic. Did you consider how your words and actions may harm your fellow species and be counter productive before you posted this? It doesn’t seem like it. Being militant about harm is only causing more harm… Sincerely, a conscious omnivore
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Unfortunately, the health industry is now overrun by far-Left just like Education, Media(journalism) and the Arts.
One of their major wins this century is to ‘claim offence’. If someone logically and rationally counters your view, you no longer have to enter the debate rationally. You can just ‘claim victory’ by claiming offence. This is the game of the political Left, and we are their suckers.
So it ends up a shouting match. You make claim A, if claim B by any other if not the same as claim A, is offensive and hate speech.
This is the intolerance of the ‘tolerant’ thought police. They call themselves progressives. More like regressives.
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ky, usa
Offence!! hehe just kidding 🙂 I love your point and agree 100% I’ve often wondered why so many people get so offended so easily! And the worst part is, they are usually not even the one being offended, but they are worried that someone might possibly be offended!
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québec, canada
I agree so much with you.
I’m almost sure that those person would not even try to argue this way in real person. But knowing it’s virtual, they feel free to insult people and attack them. They do the same about people’s physique. Like if the fact that being on the internet was granting all rights to hurt. You’re right: they should take a step back and reconsider.
A smooth approach would be so beneficial when someone tries to explain his beliefs, not an aggressive one. I would be much more sensible to a vegetarian that explains me his point of vue intelligently and kindly. I said vegetarian but I could replace the word by any others. I’m not vegetarian but I wish animals would be better treated.
Live and let live… yeah, same expression! 🙂
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I think it’s “Live and let live” , and i totally agree! People tend to identify themselves to their habits, choices (and i will not even talk about religion or political affiliation 😉 ). It’s often like: “My favorite color is… My favorite song is… I always eat pineapple on friday, for the bromeline enzyme of course, and if you don’t like pineapple, you are probably a sociopath murdering baby seals in your basement”. This identification is so strong that when you have a different opinion, or share a scientific fact, people tend to react like you’re in fact trying to destroy a part of their personnality. I think it’s basically an ego problem.
ZUZKA, thanks for sharing this, one of the numerous things i like with your work is the fact that you always link the articles or scientific papers you read and always make an open conclusion, with a question to let the discussion open. It’s the scientific way… even if scientists, when they disagree on a question, sometimes use the “Chimpanzee Argument Method” : to scream, to jump on the chair, and to throw … stuff to each other. So thank you and please continue like this! 🙂
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Zuzka will not post my last rebuttal to an accusation launched at me but she is reading what I say and knows what I’m saying makes sense . All the people that responded…said “live and let live” that is exactly what all vegans ask for and wish for, and meat eaters refuse to consider. How is meat eaters killing animals DAILY following their mantra “live and let live”? They are most definitely not letting ONE TRILLION animals live every year. That is the number of animals slaughtered annually to keep up with their demand for animal flesh. Meat eaters are HYPOCRITES! Wake up and go vegan.
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lake tahoe, nv, usa
Thank you for the great example for this article. Priceless!! 🙂
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Yes your sarcasm Zuzska and childish smiley is a great example of the callousness and denial you live in, this video shows what you think is so funny… I do not see humor in exploiting and killing animals.
http://earthlings.com/?page_id=32.
Since you love killing and eating dead animal flesh… Why not kill your dogs and eat them… I am sure their meat is no different in protein than a cow. There is no difference meat is meat.
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So do you get mad at the lioness for killing the gazelle? Or at the chicken for eating the worm? How about the frog eating the mosquito? I think we all agree that factory farming is wrong, but that isn’t what you are talking about.
Maybe the story will be we were all vegetarians until a “woman” sinned and screwed it all up, that’s why all the meat eaters eat meat.
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lake tahoe, nv, usa
Hahaha! The last sentence cracked me up 🙂 totally
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seattle, washington
This why you need like here and while you are at it throw in edit! 😀
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nobody would get mad at you if you personally catch an animal and eat it right there and then. no carnivore need a middle person to be able to eat his meal. humans are not carnivores. we eat meat because it tastes good, but we can definitely live without it. so before you guys make fun of a person extend your knowledge a little bit. because right now you sound like bunch of teenagers.
p.s telling someone to go vegan is also wrong. it’s a personal choice. but at least make an informed one instead of convincing yourself that meat is a necessity
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I knew this post was going to be fun!! Time to go flip my burgers!!!!
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MELANIE KEENAN you just made my point, meat heads like you and Zuzka think it is humorous to joke about killing animals for nothing more than a little taste…with your flip a burger comment… this is what you think is so funny… how broken and callous can you be? watch what you think is so funny…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCPNRsYij3o…. … yes killing innocent animals is so funny, isn’t it ?! Look at the hypocrisy of Zuzka… her profile picture is with her dog… like if she loves animals… that is the joke… she kills and eats animals daily that are every bit as sentient as her dogs, and does not give their lives an ounce of thought…. I am sure if someone killed her dogs in front of her and ate them she would not find it as humorous, but killing another animal… that is hilarious to you all…. what a bunch of kind people! That was sarcasm!
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lake tahoe, nv, usa
I’m sorry for you.
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seattle, washington
I tried to warn you about religious zealots. It’s a minefield out there!
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Zuzka…. You or any of your little sheep followers have not disputed one point I’ve made all you and your little sheep have done is attack the messenger… How childish can you be?
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seattle, washington
David there are burgers made of worms. Is that evil? How about plants and their feelings? Right they don’t have a faces so they don’t count! You are just as much a hypocrite as anyone here!
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Yeah I’m sure Melanie meant she was flipping a burger made of worms…. More typical meat head childish comments….. Its getting boring…. But I expected as much!
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seattle, washington
Not what I was saying. It’s not getting boring it’s getting uncomfortable for you. It’s just if all life is sacred then you are fine with killing it as long as it doesn’t come when you call it!
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Your the one living a life of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance! Your lame responses are yes boring!
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seattle, washington
Right, I ‘m guessing you’re maybe 10 years old or something like that. You kill just on a level you think is fine. It’s pretty clear who is disconnected from reality here. I bore you? Then move on. I think I will leave it at I also feel sorry for you.
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I’m pretty sure most people on this site do not actually kill the animals they eat. How about those poor vegetables you yank out of the ground, do they not get a choice?
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toronto, canada
Dear David,
It is a shame you could not express yourself in a more respectful manner. I am sure you would find many like-minded people on this forum. It is a very supportive community. Please take your bullying somewhere else.
For the record, I found your comments extra offensive. I do believe that North American farming practices are inhumane and harmful. I believe everyone who eats meat should try hunting and butchering to have at least a true appreciation of the hard work that goes into the nutrients they consume. However, I come from a farming family and I do not know of any greater animal lovers. Sure though, they could give up their livelihood and leave all their pigs and cows without well-maintained pastures, without medical attention, and without shelter from the freezing Canadian winter if that’s your idea of humane treatment.
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Claire MacCallum, Exactly how am I being disrespectful or bullying? I am just speaking the truth… everyone here attacks me but can not disbute what I am saying. So your comments are just diversion tactics. You farmers do NOT love your animals that is a joke! If you cared for your animals and did not kill them or exploit them similar to how a animal sanctuary treats their animals I might believe you, but I know you would never do that. The ONLY reason you care for animals is because you plan on making money off their dead bodies, so if you offer shelter and vet care it is because you want them to stay alive until they reach the weight that maximizes your profit. There is no unique nutrient in animal flesh or secretions that cannot be found on a plant based diet killing animals is not necessary for humans to be healthy and thrive. So what other living beings in your workd get your form of love and are killed in the end for profit?… Your pets? Your daughter? Son? Hopefully the answer is NONE because how can you kill what you love?
The Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee, an arm of the federal Department of Health and Human Services, most recent recommendations are for the country to go vegan they state that meat and dairy is not necessary and actually harmful to the environment and to human health. The United Nations had a similar recommendation…. their recommendation is the world needs to go vegan.
I find your insistence on exploiting and killing animals is highly offensive!
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waipu, northland, new zealand
Claire, I so agree with you. DAVID you are speaking YOUR truth, not THE truth. You sound like you live in a very small world, but that is fine if it works for you. My world works for me.s actually have a choice to leave. truth
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waipu, northland, new zealand
Claire, I totally agree with you. DAVID, you are speaking YOUR truth, not THE truth. It appears you live in a very small world, and that is fine. I live in my small world. I do my research and make my own decisions, the world on a whole is full of such interesting beliefs but it is all very contradictory and at some point, animal feelings aside, you have to decide if your opinion is doing more harm than good to a person. This is an issue that is way to big to try and win, we are all on our own path trying to be the best we can be. Let it go – if your opinion is turning into negativity it could actually make you sick.
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David, I have to say that I appreciate your passion for being Vegan, for animals, for the planet…I just wish that you could realize that the extremeness with which you go about trying to convince people of a different way-whether or not it is better for everyone or not-really doesn’t seem like the best way to make a difference. I feel bad for you that you would think that creating such an uprising would score any points for your cause. Isn’t is just stressful?? The responses that you get from people? The furious copying and pasting and typing back and forth? I didn’t want to engage in that but I did want to say your passion is noted! Please show yourself some compassion and maybe try making a difference by being a positive example of what you hope for as far as change in the world.
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Starlynn, it’s interesting that although a little more politely, you are still no different than the others… You try to frame my message as “extreme” when vegans are not the ones financing the exploitation and slaughter of a trillion animals every year that’s like killing every human on the planet every 4 or 5 days. Think about that fact! Let it sink in, I think that is extreme!!!! where is your outrage for that fact? why are you not talking about it? why try to silence the people that are talking about it? Do your own research…. Watch http://www.cowspiracy.com and http://earthlings.com/?page_id=32 see the truth of what is going on and what you and everyone on this thread are gleefully financing!!
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lake tahoe, nv, usa
Everyone on this thread says they buy from actual farms that take good care for the farm animals actually. No one agrees with the cruel way of farming. You sound like you would wipe out 80% of the humanity if you could just to get rid off meat eaters 🙂 and maybe you’re not like that at all and I do believe you’re a good guy, but you do sound really harsh, and I’m sorry to tell you but you’re really not convincing anyone.
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Zuzka, what people say and do are two different things. I have never implied or said that I think meat eaters need to die! I have just asked meat eaters why do they refuse to tap into the compassion they were born with?, but in order to “fit in” to our version of society today you must learn to think of certain animals as nothing more than an object for us to exploit! The acceptance of the current social norms does not make society correct.
We only have to go back to the days of slavery… when blacks were looked at similarly to how animals are looked at in today’s society, they were mere objects to exploit! Back in those days I would be the person asking slave owners why do you think it is “just” to enslave another human and deny them of their only life? And you all are acting like the slave owners, laughing and making fun of my points…. saying who cares, and why are you so extreme? Don’t rock the boat… just be quite! We do not want to think about it…. it will ruin our dinner to think about it!
You all do not want the system to change because like the slave owners you like the system because you are benefiting from it, and since it is not illegal you could care less of the animals you exploit and eat. And like I have said many many times on this thread none of you are contesting my argument you are just attacking the messenger… but I guess that is your argument…. attack the messenger… hope he goes away so we can get back to not thinking about the deaths we cause and can get back to pretending we are good people! Because we believe in “Live and let live” ….. well except if we want to kill you and eat your flesh then you do not count and neither does your life.
So you can all think that I am the harsh one, but really I am not killing any animal against its will and the only complaint you have is that I am being to direct on the issue! Well in my book having ONE TRILLION sentient beings murdered every year by people that think like you… That makes you the REAL HARSH PEOPLE …. NOT ME! 🙂
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québec, canada
David, unfortunately, you may want to find another planet, because almost every human activity can affect nature and animals.
Unless you grow everything in your backyard, are creating your own electricity, are cleaning your own water, don’t own a car, use no clothes, and well, has no house or apartment, you’re somewhat having a carbon footprint that can affect some ecosystem in the world. Yeah, human has been using much resources while thinking they are sustainable – and they’re not. It will blow out in our faces someday.
I find it’s so weird that you’re labelling yourself as a messenger… Really? It’s … big. I think it takes a big ego to pretend to be right and everybody else, wrong. Calling people hypocrites, trying to put words in the mouths of people you don’t even know, telling us that we’re all wrong, that we are not argumenting. I’m sure my message will be useless amongst all others that are not yours, I don’t even know why I’m answering. Losing time probably because I’m certainly wrong too.
Take a look in the past and please name more than few tribes that could thrive without any meat or fish. Think about every country that goes below 0 degrees in fall, winter and spring. Inuits, Russians and Canadians would have fun growing stuff and getting enough protein all year long. They had to adapt to those conditions. Speaking of evolution, meat and fish has always been a part of human’s food and will probably always be. Such as many other species. What was your theory about other carnivorous species? Can’t find it.
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Marilyn, I responded earlier today but Zuzka deleted it…. So I guess Zuzka does not want to deal with reality… And that is not a surprise at this point.
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Haha 😀
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I remember when the butter was off limits and soon after the table salt was also thrown out. Bacon was only allowed once a month and we drank Tang because the astronauts did. Now this was the 70’s…..I never did like the margarine replacement and never indulged either. After leaving my parent’s house I found myself buying butter but still eating it on rare occasion because what I was told. Salt too was a rare occasion. Tang was never ever bought again …and as for bacon ” all kid’s love bacon “…….I recently decided to replace my butter with the kerrygold unsalted version, my salt with “celtic” sea salt,my Tang with fresh squeezed oranges which helps keep the sugar lower, and my bacon sadly has been ignored……but yes what people say can direct our shopping and I’m so glad to be eating lot’s of butter again ! Bullet proof coffee all week Long !!!!
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We learn as we go, I used to get the organic butter at Costco when I needed a lot, for breads and stuff I use organic 100% pasture. Then I found out that Ireland doesn’t have factory farms and all their cows are pastured. So now when I have to get Costco butter I get the Kerrigold, and their cheese also 🙂
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I just like to eat was is the least harmful to the animals and our planet. I don’t think people are “bad” for choosing differently but I think critical thinking should be an integral part of what we choose to eat as individuals. Just be conscious of what you are doing to yourself and the planet.
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B/c haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate …..
Good read, “The Blue Zone Solution” by Dan Buettner.
Shake it off. Stay positive.
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los angeles, ca, usa
Couldn’t agree more, Zuzka.
Same for nutrition and for exercise. What works for one will absolutely not work for all – and it’s up to each of us to try what interests and intrigues us and go with what works for our own individual bodies and souls…. we have to be open to trying new things, and listen to our own inner voice. It’s pretty simple. 🙂
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torrance, ca, united states
I totally agree that we are all different individuals with our own preferences and body’s responses . So it is obvious that what works for someone may not work for other… I also don’t get why some people just don’t understand something so simple… Anyway, I’m totally with you Zuska! Don’t let these people desencorage you because your real fans do appreciate the informations you share! I’m greathfull that I found your website, and I’m sure there are many others that think like me 😉 Best, Julia Culau